Pretty sure if the need arises, wiki page edits can be password protected

Not 100% sure.

I could never really get into editing them.

I don't think it'll be a problem, though. We can always take a sort of zero tolerance policy and banhammer IPs that are doing stupid shit.

I am for being against the stupid shit. Nip the madness in the bud.

Oh yeah.

HGLowe wrote:
I don't think it'll be a problem, though. We can always take a sort of zero tolerance policy and banhammer IPs that are doing stupid shit.

There's a problem with banning specific IPs. If I'm not mistaken, AOL for example uses a certain rotating amount of them. Banning a specific IP, especially an AOL one, may nab the troll, this is true. But, it may also prevent legitimate users from posting as well.

Something to keep in mind.

For the record, I like the idea of a Rhydin wiki. Maybe someone can sit down and catalog the unique flora and fauna that inhabits the lands. Or even put in humorous articles about the Fangus Flashus out there (fang flashing vampire stereotypes) for example.

HGLowe wrote:
I don't think it'll be a problem, though. We can always take a sort of zero tolerance policy and banhammer IPs that are doing stupid shit.

I disagree on the banning of IPs. It could result in banning users that one had not intended to ban. AOL IPs and Road Runner IPs change, other services probably do as well.

There's some way to, IIRC, not ban but flag some IPs. Maybe we could flag IPs that are proving to belong to repeat offenders, and make it so that they have to register to edit. It might net a few people who are innocent, but those who are won't likely mind that much, and those who want to be jerks will be kept out.

It's been awhile since I've worked with Wikipedia, but I remember that when I was on AOL, my IP was flagged. I just can't remember what the message was and that.

I don't wanna ban IPs either, really; was more thinking it would be something to lay down the law early on and not have to deal with any random stupidity. I likewise don't want to force people to register and sign in to make edits, but the answer's somewhere in the middle.

I don't really see a ton of wiki abuse happening, but I suppose once we work out what we'd want to see in it, maybe we could see how it goes open, then if need be, add restrictions later.

I also firmly want to see RoH and RDI participate in it. Not just on a user-level, either. That's one of the reasons I thought to not host it as a part of any particular site, including this one, y'know? But let's keep chewing on it.

Where does everyone think it should be hosted? How do you think it would be best administrated?

HGLowe wrote:
Where does everyone think it should be hosted? How do you think it would be best administrated?


I think it should be hosted off ME and RDI or any other equally affiliated website -- it's own organism that groups can contribute to, but because it's not hosted of any of those websites, it can be detached from whatever stigma issues people have.

I like the idea of having administrators from DM, ME, and GR all involved and admining together, but I don't know how viable that is.

I have been... hesitant... to toss this out here.

I already started on a RhyDin wiki about 2-3 months ago. After testing a couple different ones, I had planned on using PMWiki (www.pmwiki.com) because I liked the feel of it better than some others I tried, including wikipedia.

I had started a number of test entries based on things in this RDI thread...

http://rdi.dragonsmark.com/forums/viewforum.php?f=133

and had planned on hosting it realmofrhydin.com, a domain I had a couple years prior to starting up Dragon's Mark.

But, it has been a very low priority project. Writer's Lab and some other things were/are higher on the list for me at the moment. Like TWL, it was not going to be "under" the DM umbrella, but sponsored by it, in order to help it reach beyond just the DM crowd.

I had a test install set up, but I 'broke' the database so I lost what I had done.

Anyways... I also do not have the time right now to deal with it much. But, I'll put the offer of using that domain, setting up the wiki (again, right now my personal preference is PMWiki... but that could be discussed further), helping maintain it, etc. It would not include FTP access to the site... well, I suppose if it's needed by someone other than me I could, I would have to move it do a different user on my hosting. (which I may have to anyways cause I'm having issues getting it to resolve properly right now.)

I do believe it's best a truly collaborative effort. That means all of us, all of the admins, patrolling it, discussing it together, working on it together as we can. Definitely no one site that owns it, or operates it. ME has a sometimes bad rep (which I'll take my share of blame for) on DM as of yet; DM has a sometimes bad rep here (likewise to the previous, I'll take my blame), GR... has no rep as of yet, mercifully. But a true collaborative effort like that, with all admins involved, would be a great resource.

Not this minute, or this week, or even anytime that soon. We can all hook up in ME's flashchat at some point, all admins, or over in DM's OOC chat, or whatever and have an admin-meeting to discuss how to best go forward with it, if we even decide to. I think it's an idea that would take off bigtime, just given that it's a user-content generated thing with lots of potential for tying things together.

We can iron out hosting, ftps, etc. If worse came to worst, we could all throw in and buy a domain or something and some space for it. If not, we can all decide where best in the web to fit it. We can decide the structure, the rules, the usage formats, and all of that.

I'm a good ideas person. I'm willing to come up with them, and I'm willing to help make them work, but this is one project that I don't want to do alone, and I don't want anyone to do it alone.

[...]all of the admins, patrolling it, discussing it together,

I have no interest in spending my time watching over a wiki page, sorry.